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James White's Dreams
a Big Fish Story
James White (1821-1881)
James White's Dream follows these
notes.
Editor's notes:
What to look for in James' two fish dreams.
- James and Ellen both regarded dreams and
visions as messages from God.
- The dream at Monterey: When James
said, "we" he was including Ellen, as both, "dreamed a
hundred times" of catching fish for 24 years.
- What did catching fish mean in their
dreams? James interprets his dream to mean, "The size of the persons, and
their moral worth, is generally represented by the size and value of the
fish." James is saying that he and Ellen
now can judge the "moral worth" of a person by the size and value
of the fish they have seen in their dreams. Wow! To bad SDA Evangelist do
not have the gift of "fishy dreams" it would save them a lot of
time by not baptizing those that did not have "moral worth"!
- The dream at Wright: James dreamed that he
and Ellen were fishing out of a boat. They were having problems with four
large fish that would not stay in the boat and jumping back into the water,
and were keeping small fish away. After they managed to catch the large
fish, then they were able start catching small plump small fish.
- The fulfillment of the Wright dream:
- James and Ellen were at Wright six week. Ellen spoke
25 times and James spoke 12 times. James was recovering from a long illness.
- Ellen found she had to carry the heavy part of the
burden but was careful to let James lead out.
- As they labored for especially church members, James
was a great help.
- Was James' "Wright dream" really fulfilled
by fish jumping in and out of the boat???????
Would someone in Adventist Land explain James' fishy
dreams?
How would dreaming of fish help judge a persons
moral worth? Only God reads the heart and can judge a person's moral worth.
Chapter Title:
Liberated at Last--The Sweet and the Bitter
James White: Ellen G. White Volume 2 The Progressive Years 1862-1876,
page 165.
An Encouraging James White Dream
In his next report to the Review
James White related a dream that he had at Wright. Four years earlier, while at
Monterey, just before a special outreach for the youth (see Ellen G. White: The
Early Years, chapter 32), he had dreamed of catching many small, plump fish. In
the weeks that followed, many young persons were converted, first at Monterey,
then at Wright, Greenville, Orleans, and finally at Battle Creek. He recounted
that "for twenty-four years, we
have probably dreamed of catching fish a
hundred times, just before an ingathering of souls. The size of the persons, and
their moral worth, is generally represented by the size and value of the
fish."--RH, Feb. 5, 1867.
Of the dream at Wright, he
wrote: Mrs. White and self were fishing, and with much effort caught large fish.
But four of the fish caused us much trouble. They were restless, and would get
out of the boat into the water, when we would with difficulty pull them into the
boat again. This was repeated several times, and we caught no more large fish.
We saw no small fish, as they were kept away by the large ones. But when the
large ones were all caught out of the way, the water was immediately alive with
small fish, plump and beautiful, which we readily caught. I awoke, and behold,
it was a dream.
Before leaving Wright, they
witnessed the literal fulfillment of this dream. During the six weeks they were
there, Ellen spoke twenty-five times, and James, twelve. As James was recovering
from his long illness, she found that she must carry the heavy part of the
burden, but she was careful to see that her husband led out. As they labored
especially for the members of the church, Ellen found that her husband was a
great help. James White: Ellen G. White Volume 2 The Progressive Years 1862-1876,
page 165.
Can anyone make sense of how James' dream of catching fish had anything to do
with their interpretation of their each preaching several times?
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